[Your Mind's Eye]Your Mind's EYE on HP? (How do you see HP)

[Duddahs]

I will bet it looks something like the House of the Seven Gables.

Having visited Salem Mass many times it is a really fun day trip from Shell Cottage for me.

What I really am thinking of doing is a day trip to Sturbridge Village this summer while I am staying at Shell Cottage.

[grandpalovegood]

OK... I have yet to backread what has been posted recently but this is something that has been on my mind for some time now... Then I realized this is the perfetct thread to ask this question... (but I WILL get back to comment on the earlier posts soon. )

How in YOUR mind's eye do you see the many phases of Bellatrix Lestrange? I mean, as she started out in Hogwarts... and her progression to be the person we know her to be once she escaped from prison and beyond.

Now I too will post MY thoughts about her when I see that all who wish to respond has had a chance to. got to go.

[Duddahs]

Oh I have known the types of girls that Bellatrix was growing up.

Having been a competitive Ice Skater myself, I was one of the few men surrounded by the hoards of young ladies. Often they were bleached blonds trying to all look like Janet Lynn but a few real stinkers in the bunch too. Those who would trip their competitors just to place one spot higher on the list.

Yep, they do exist and I always saw Bellatrix as one of those who are beatiful in skin but ugly inside, kind of like a dried out cupcake!

[grandpalovegood]

Really, I was more asking about the normal transitions we all make as we go through life. I mean how does Bellatrix differ now that she spent all of those years in Azkaban from right before she went in? Or from when she first joined the DE's? Even earlier than that... How different than how she was when she was growing up attending Hogwarts? Those different stages of Bellatrix? Because I see each stage of her being distinctly different with an underlying Bellatrix that is still the same. A growth into the person we got to know in Harry's time.

[Duddahs]

Well, you see Miss Charlotte, I have always seen little Ms. Bellatrix Black to have been the same spoiled, overindulged, rotten to the core beast she was when she grew up.

Just a little more tattered and worse for the wear that is all. Still the very same deep down. Heck not even deep down. Scratch her surface and all one would smell is the rot from with.

[grandpalovegood]

Ahh... That is where we differ. I saw her deep down just as rotten as can be. We have that vision in common. But I've always seen her more refined when she was young. More sneaky and devious but in a way no one really could tell if you looked at a portrait of her. Yeah.... similar to how Tom Riddle was but not near as brilliant. That pretty face, but evil within the eyes. I'll bet she won every staring contest as a kid. She had the makings for evil deeds as a youngster in my mind. But being a bit more reserved and in control.

She dressed very well as a teen, as a youg adult. Not a hair out of place. When she fell in love with Voldemort, she no longer cared for herself. It was said that she had straight hair in the beginning, then as she was beginning to loose her mind she began to look unfrazzled. We know in book five that we see a new major change in her happened once her master went missing. She was frantic and just fell apart. Hmm.. OK Take Lucius for example... How he was in book two. He looked the image of a well distinguishing man. You had to get to know him to know how rotten he was inside... or be his victim. I see the early Bellatrix like that. More like her sister but on a dark colored spectrum and with more evil.

I see once she joined Voldemort, that was the end of hope for her. Another step in the development of the character we knew. I forget where it was said, but when a witch has too much anger within her, her hair can become frizzy and spark. I think that was with Hermione. I always considered this a witches trait, of whom allows her magic to get out of control... like it's bubbling to get out somehow. Yeah... like the magic can no longer be contained within the witch. I see that next step where Bellatrix joins the Deatheaters where she begins to loose her control. Her desire is for none other than to impress her new master. She cares not for anything, anyone else. He's her obsession. We sort of get a glimpse of it when Harry sees her for the first time within the Pensive at the trial with Barty Crouch and her husband.

Then the last change happens from spending so many years in Azkaban. Being in there even took it's toll on Sirius' mind and body. That is when nothing is held back from what she would do. The skies the limit and she was determined to make up for lost time. Voldemort had always been her obsession, now it's more cranked up full blast.

[Duddahs]

In my minds eye, I see Narcissa to be much like Petunia and Lily to be very similar to Andromeda but Vernon and Bellatrix are cut from the very same course cloth.

[grandpalovegood]

Jun 3, 2011 11:38:39 GMT -6 Duddahs said:

In my minds eye, I see Narcissa to be much like Petunia and Lily to be very similar to Andromeda but Vernon and Bellatrix are cut from the very same course cloth.

OK.... lets do a multi-person post.

Narcissa.....
I don't see her anything like how they have her in the movie. And not so much of how I write her in IG. I do see he as a loving mother, but has her nose a bit turned up with an attitude. She thinks she's all that. I also see her as smart woman. She's smart enough to know better than to join the DE's even though her hubby has. She wants her son close. That is good. When I read that, I was surprised. That changed my idea of her being one of these people who are constantly on the go, one spa, going skiing, vacationing on every spot that would suit her needs... That she most likly was an absentee parent. That was my original idea of her until I heard how she wanted Draco to go to Hogwarts. I honestly believe it had more to do with the sort of reputation Durmstrang had.. not just that Hogwarts was close.. well, that was also a perk. But I do see her as a woman who loved her husband. She was definately strong to put her foot down with him and get her way. How often this happens, I don't know. I do see her as the vision of beauty. Long blonde hair. Blue eyes. Tall, and built to perfection. I also can't overcome her family background. I see her sort of in the middle... somewheres between Andromeda and Bellatrix. She rides the line, so to speak. I don't see her going over to the good side so easily with the way she was brought up... but this too shows her strength to ride that line. I don't believe she was one who would have joined the DE's.. but was smart enough to not cross them... nor let them know how she really felt. Yet I don't see her joining Snape to become a spy for Dumbledore either. She knows her place.

Petunia......
I'd have to say my vision of her pretty much changed after I read book seven. The actress who plays her is perfect and I see her in my minds eye every time. I know Petunia too, is supposed to be a blonde but it does not fit for me. Maybe the movies tainted that somehow.

I see her as being scared. She loved her sister and wanted to be with her. I don't see her as being jealous. Listening to the two of them on the playground, she sounded protective of Lily. She loved her and enjoyed spending time with her. She was suspicous of Snape, which is not hard for anyone. I think she felt left out when Lily got to go to Hogwarts a school that sounded so cool, and she got stuck with public school. We can see this by how she treated Dudley on his first day of school. Also how she sent that letter to Dumbledore.

I don't think it was a good thing when she met up with Vernon. I believe she could have done better than that. Just imagine if she found someone with a heart. Someone who was kind and understanding. I don't think she would have treated Harry half as bad while he was in her care if she found a good guy. I honestly believe Vernon had a lot to do with keeping her so bent on the type of treatment Harry recieved. I mean, can you imagine what Vernon would have said to her if she showed any kindness toward harry? That is it... Imagine Vernon with a disposition like Lupin's.

Lily.............
Really, we didn't have much to go on when it came to her. JKR kept her under tight wraps until the very end. I see Lily as a normal woman really. She was kind and excepting. She had morrals... lines she would rather no cross. She had a good heart. They said she was smart and did well in school. They said she was well liked by everyone.

Honestly, I think she gave Severus a good long while before she said enough was enough. She tried to change him. Sad thing was it took turning her back on him to do so. I know that had to have been hard. She stuck up for him for so long. This also showed that she had patience. Well, I take that back. I always saw him as being good, but I saw that he tried hard to fight it. I saw Lily as trying to get Snape to show the person he really was. I saw Snape as being one of these proud guys who does not want others to know he's a marshmallow inside. So he sticks his chin out there and growls at people. She didn't want him to be that way, but to choose to be kind. Not hurt people like the DE's do. That was hard for her to swallow since she knew the real Snape.

Then as a mom, she took good care of Harry. I guess when she finally got together with James that too changed James to be the person he turned out to be. This shows her influence to be that of a good one on those around her.

Andromeda...
I never really thought much about her until it came time to write her part of the story. I see her as being kind. She had to have been strong in order to have a mind of her own despite the way she was brought up. I see her similar to Lily but ONLY when it comes to being excepting of those who are different than herself. Tonks turned out to be a good natured person. She said her mom was good at cleaning. Shows ANdromeda was also a hands on type of person. She tended to her family's needs. We see this again in book seven after Harry and Hagrid pay them a visit. In my mind's eye I have a hard time visually picturing her to look like a cleaned up version of Bellatrix but that she be.

Vernon......
A rotten egg. Total control freak. Sadly, he definately was the man of the house.

Bellatrix........

And I already gave my view of . See my previous post.

Hey... anyone else here can jump in and give your own opinion.

[Duddahs]

I am sitting here and thinking about the Weasley family for something that I might want to write someday.

What struck me and struck me hard is something that I never realized before.

Molly has the fear of her entire family being Dead as her boggart. This was shown in the parlor of Grimmauld Place when she attempted to clean the Boggart out of the desk and she witnessed the dead bodies of her entire family before her, one by one.

In a way, each and every one of the Weasleys directly faced death, that is all except ONE and that one has a distinction as well.

Arthur Weasley was attacked by Nagini but due to Harry's vision of the attack taking place in the MOM Arthur was saved from the brink of death.

Molly Weasley directly faced Bellatrix Lestrange in the Battle of Hogwarts and it came down to a duel between the two to which thankfully Molly survived and Bellatrix was blown to bits.

Bill Weasley was viciously attacked by Fenrir Greyback and barely survived his injuries prior to his announcement of his impending wedding to Fleur.

Percy Weasley, having finally seen the light and the truth behind the Ministry officials he so desperately adored, came back to Hogwarts to battle along side his family and friends, nearly being killed himself during the siege upon the castle.

George Weasley was struck by a curse gone awry cast by Severus Snape. That curse blasted off his ear but came so close to killing him that it could not have been much worse at the time.

Fred Weasley gave the ultimate of himself in the Battle of Hogwarts having been killed outright.

Ron Weasley, having been along side Harry Potter and Hermione since day one of the series, had multiple brushes with death. Some closer than others but right from the beginning and the near death via the Devils Snare, Ron brilliantly faced down each challenge upon his life.

Ginny Weasley was nearly killed in the MOM and if not for her brilliant use of the Reducto Spell, she too may have been a casualty. Then there is also the attacks upon her by the Carrows and her being part of the final battle of Hogwarts even though she was still underage.

It was Charlie Weasley, who day in and day out faced danger in his life by working with Dragons, but this was his choice and passion. Charley never truly faced Death as did the other members of his family. Also Charley Weasley has the unfortunate distinction of being the only surviving Weasley offspring to have never married and had children.

Such an odd thought pattern but does anyone else find this an extremely unusual or series of events?

What might have been behind JKR's thoughts that created this very circumstance?

I would love to hear what others think about this or have I just fallen off the ledge of a very tall building?

[grandpalovegood]

Wow... I never thought of things like this. They each did face death.

As for Charlie, I have some memory that he has scars from working with the Dragons. I might be wrong, but someone... maybe Ron said it comes with the job. This memory is so vague.. but in my mind I always saw him with burns of some sort. Maybe a scar from a broken limb? Nothing to the extent that I imagined Bill's werewolf scars to be.

Good catch Duddah.

[grandpalovegood]

OK.... to revive this thread...

IN YOUR MINDS EYE....

HOW DID YOU IMAGINE THE FOUR FOUNDERS MEETING FOR THE FIRST TIME?

[fangsfan1]

IN YOUR MINDS EYE....



HOW DID YOU IMAGINE THE FOUR FOUNDERS MEETING FOR THE FIRST TIME?

I picture Gryffindor and Ravenclaw being good friends, maybe having gone to school together. One day they are talking and have they idea to start the school. They decide they need two more founders and choose to ask Salazar Slytherin because he has a reputation as one of the most brilliant wizards around-he accepts the position.
Then maybe one of them meets Helga Hufflepuff by chance-maybe observes her interacting with children and realizes she would be a good one to balance them out-one who would be sympathetic to young wizards away from their home for the first time. They approach her and she likes the idea-and comes up with her own idea of accepting all the kds who don't fit in with the other three houses.

[grandpalovegood]

Dec 21, 2011 13:01:38 GMT -6 fangsfan1 said:

IN YOUR MINDS EYE....



HOW DID YOU IMAGINE THE FOUR FOUNDERS MEETING FOR THE FIRST TIME?

I picture Gryffindor and Ravenclaw being good friends, maybe having gone to school together. One day they are talking and have they idea to start the school. They decide they need two more founders and choose to ask Salazar Slytherin because he has a reputation as one of the most brilliant wizards around-he accepts the position.
Then maybe one of them meets Helga Hufflepuff by chance-maybe observes her interacting with children and realizes she would be a good one to balance them out-one who would be sympathetic to young wizards away from their home for the first time. They approach her and she likes the idea-and comes up with her own idea of accepting all the kds who don't fit in with the other three houses.

I just read this right now... and I'm glad I waited. YOu'll see why eventually. YOur's and my idea is sort of the same. I see and feel the same exact way about Gryffindor and Ravenclaw. A slight different idea on the other things you mentioned though. I'm in the process of writing something that will show my ideas in more detail. I will post it once I'm finished.

Still.... I'm surprised that you are the only one who had an opinion. Thanks Fangsfan for sharing.

[Duddahs]

OUCH! Duddahs felt that poke Miss Charlotte.

Well, Duddahs was also working on that story line a bit too. Worries about how our stories might intersect but also excited to see how the do and how they also diverge.

As for how I have imagined the Four Founders to have met.

Well, here goes.

Salazar Slytherin fancied himself the GREATEST Wizard in all the Wizarding World in the most powerful area near present day London. He also was very worried deep down with doubt that he truly might be upstaged by yet another more powerful Wizard.

When Salazar heard the rumors of Powerful Wizards, he would seek them out. Being such a non trusting soul, he wished to keep what he deemed his rivals close to himself. This way, he might learn what they knew that he did not and would then add that knowledge to his already sizable talents.

One by one, Salazar would meet and befriend those who he felt where his greatest threat though they soon became respected and almost considered as friends. Helga Hufflepuff in her small hamlet on the eastern coast where she was known as a truly benevolent and good witch.

He would then convince Helga to follow him with the promises of a Great Wizarding School. She could no less turn down his proposal to help others than she could make herself less than a wonderful person. So they were off in search of others to assist in their quest to build the Greatest Wizarding School in all the world.

Rumor came to them as Salazar and Helga came to the great towns around early Scotland. Even Centuries ago, Scotland was the hub of wealth as well as powerful people on the fledgeling English Isle.

Here they hear the rumors about a great and wealthy woman with magical powers beyond anyone's imagination.

The duo searched out and found this young witch. She was called Rowena Ravenclaw. She was indeed from a very wealthy family. She was to inherit vast uncharted lands in the north of the English Isle. Great Forest and Lakes surrounded an impenetrable rocky landscape.

Salazar and Helga convinced Rowena that this would be the perfect place to build their Wizarding School. Rowena, so thrilled to have met a Witch and Wizard of comparable abilities readily agreed to their request. They journeyed on to find yet another to whom Rowena Ravenclaw had always heard rumor of. One who was descended from the very cradle of Wizards and Witches. One so pure of bloodline and powers passed down from the fabled Peverell Brothers.

As the Trio traveled to the western shore towns searching each and every Hamlet that they came upon. Until one brilliant and snowy Christmas Eve did they arrive in one particular sleepy little moore.

As the trio approached the only place where bright lights burned in the windows, it was apparent that it was an inn. As they walked in and were seated at a long scrubbed wood table, they questioned the Inn Keep in the hopes of news of the Wizard they searched.

To the amazement of all three, the keeper broke into laughter and told them that the one they sought was his very son, Godric, Godric Gryffindor.

After a short meeting and explanation of the quest to build the greatest Wizarding School in the world, a very excited and enthusiastic Godric agreed to join and the four Great Witches and Wizards bonded with a promise to be the finest teachers to have ever come before them.

This is how I envision a very possible way for the mighty Founding Four to have come to be the founders and builders of Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry.

[grandpalovegood]

No worries Duddah.... MY story is NOT what you might be thinking.... Believe me, I think it would be better, and Imuch rather use my ideas. ANyway, my story is about something else that is similar yet entierly different. Still, during my writing, I was wondering what the rest of you thought on this particular detail.

Anyhow.... I do wonder if anyone else would have felt that BIG POKE to share ideas of how you all think they founders met?



(now I goes back to reading your post)

[grandpalovegood]

Wow.... very cool thoughts both of you! Thanks for sharing. Thank goodness we have something different in mind..... Still it's all a matter of perspective. We dont have enough clues to point one way or the other.... that is one of the reasons why I asked this question.... ALL could have been how JKR saw it to be, then of course we all have our cool imaginations to fill in the gaps that JKR did not share with us.



Still..... The floor is open... I'd LOVE to hear other points of view if anyone wishes to share them with us. JUst how DID the Founders meet?

[fangsfan1]

I loved Duddah's ideas and can't wait to hear yours Miss Charlotte. This is a great thread.

[Duddahs]

Me too! Me too!

Jumps up and down with reckless abandon.

Looses his footing and falls off the edge of the bed and gets his beak stuck in the pile of the carpeted floor.

Lays motionless waiting for someone to come and save Duddahs from this embarrassing situation.

[grandpalovegood]

You guys are goofy. Sorry it took me this long to get back here to read this...

I'll go now and dig in deep for a writing spell so to get this posted sooner rather than later.



looks at Duddah...

should I cover him up with a blanket? He DOES look cold in that position......

taps foot while thinking....

naaaaa....

grabs hold of a few tail feathers aaaaand......

na.....

changes my mind then reaches under his owl chin and POP! There you be... sitting up all nice and pretty again.


I"m off to write for a while...


but before I leave... I will repost the current question:

I do wonder if anyone else would have felt that BIG POKE to share ideas of how you all think the Four Founders met?

There.... That'll do.

[Duddahs]

Taking that Carry a Big Stick phrase a little far, dontcha think?