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Post by rin68nyr on May 2, 2011 14:07:52 GMT -6
I was wondering about the wormtail deth scene being taken out...I guess it makes sense, but wish they could have put it in. Does that mean that Molly's line may be changed in DH2?!!!
Erin
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Post by Duddahs on May 3, 2011 10:25:14 GMT -6
One of the greatest questions of all time in the world of Harry Potter are the missing hours.
Right after the deaths of Harry's Parents and Hagrid being sent to retrieve the baby, there seems to be a number of hours where we are not exactly sure who and where young Harry was taken.
One can assume that he was brought back to Hagrids Hut and stayed with Hagrid, but is this true?
Professor McGonnagal would have been the best person to take care of Harry but she was staked out at Number 4 Privet Drive all day so it is impossible for her to have been the care taker.
Albus Dumbledore was said to have been at the Ministry of Magic for some of the time, so that kind of rules him out as well.
Why then would McGonnagal not have known that Dumbledore had entrusted Harry to Hagrids care even though he trusted Hagrid with his life and that of Harry's.
Hmmmmmmmmm?
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Post by grandpalovegood on May 5, 2011 3:49:32 GMT -6
It was obvious that there was no way that the producers had the time available to explain the Cousin Polyjuice appearance at the wedding. As a matter of fact, they barely made Elphus Doge or Aunt Marjorie part of the scene but they were there none the less. I am more thankful for what we got and not worried as much about what we did not. I am really only slightly bugged to bejeabers about them cutting out the Dursley leaving scene as was written by JKR. That was by far more disturbing. Also the lack of the scene in the forest where they overhear Dean Thomas, Tonks and Griphook, but I guess too many side trips would have been time eaters and they did not have the Wormtail death scene due to it potentially causing an R rating for a Suicide. They DO have his death scene, they just changed it.... Wait, I was going to say Dobby killed him but really he only disarmed him. I guess because I do know many parts of that book too well, I filled in that blank on my own with the way it really was. Thanks guys for letting me see how they did change it more than what I thought. Come to think about it. Wasn't there something significant to do with Voldemort causing Wormtail to kill himself... Had to do with his silver hand or betrayal. Voldemort made sure he would not try to help Harry again? Well, I"m asking this wondering about the earlier film. I think they left out that dialogue back when he gave him his hand in the first place. So we know there was more to that scene as well, Still they didn't have to put it in this time around since in order for the films to match each other... well, you get what I'm saying. I got a feeling they won't leave that part out with Molly. I mean they use profanity in all of the other films anyway, why not the one most people are looking forward to seeing her say. To me, that scene always reminded me of Ripley yelling at that Alien mother when she was protecting the little girl named Newt in the second Alien movie. |
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Post by grandpalovegood on May 5, 2011 4:14:08 GMT -6
OH I just love this type of conversation... You and I have a very different thin in our minds eye. You see things very differently than I do... One of the greatest questions of all time in the world of Harry Potter are the missing hours. I know we over at the WB's Quibbler discussed this at length. Then I thought later on JKR was asked about this... I might be remembering wrong but i thought this was one of her bloopers. She was not thinking there was a 24 hour missing bit of time until a fan asked her about it. She gave an answer having to deal with math is not her strongssuit. She didn't intend on there being that missing time. None the less it's undeniably there. I think it was a whole missing day. Really, my rusty mind needs to dig that one up again to see if my memory is correct. I really never thought he went there at all. Why? I thought that Harry's memories were all recalling the Godric's Hollow scene as well as riding on the flying motorbike. Just for me, I never imagined he'd be taken back to Hagrid's... but I'll explain more in a second. You know, I never considered her before and still you are right. She even had to ask Albus if it was all true about the Potters and Harry. See, this is where you and I differ on so many counts. I never heard of this theory that he was at the Ministry. My entire theory was how he was wrapped up doing stuff for the Order. I once posted... well posted several times that I beleive Voldemort made a diversion to keep the Order busy while he snuck in under the radar to get Harry without others knowing. My old theory was that Albus was tipped off by a portrait going back and forth from his office to Godric's Hollow reporting. Something Voldemort could not have imagined. But I think it was explained later that there was no portrait. Not too sure. Anyway, as for where Harry was taken... I always suspected that Albus put protections not only on Privet Drive but on Harry... so I saw the most likely place to keep someone safe was Hogwarts it's self. Where at Hogwarts would I imagine the enchanntments of protection Albus would put on Harry take place? None other than his office. Safest place on earth while Albus took off to put more magical protections on Number four Privet Drive before harry arrived. I always asked where the Order was during all of this? I could see Albus also having to deal with some emergency on that diversion that I thought up in my head. Yep... I do have some imagination. ;D Well, I think it was you who said it... She was sitting on the wall all day... Remember the corner she was reading a map when Vernon saw her? |
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Post by rin68nyr on May 5, 2011 4:41:27 GMT -6
The thing with Wormtail's lack of death scene in the movie...people who don't kow what happened in the books would have been really confused about why the hand attacked him,,,they never explained the life debt in the movies...
Erin
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Post by Duddahs on May 5, 2011 9:11:46 GMT -6
I totally agree with you there Erin. The life debt would have taken so long to explain and even then it is possible that it might have gone well over some viewers heads. It is one of the more obscure references in the books.
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Post by Duddahs on May 27, 2011 17:18:59 GMT -6
Have any of you ever wondered about Arabella Fig ?'' would she not have become a major target by the death eaters once she vouched for Harry at his trial?
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Post by grandpalovegood on May 28, 2011 2:27:38 GMT -6
You know even with the ministry knowing where Harry lived and knowing the DE's had infiltrated them long ago... then knowing that Petunia's house was protected by more than one spell, if Dumbledore might have put some sort of spell to protect where Figg lived. No not anything near as good as what was put around the Dursley's but something at least... Still, I don't think she lived next door but down the street. The DE's could go there, but what good would it do if they can't get to Harry while he was at him aunts house.... for that matter they could have attatcked him while he was on the playground..... slaps self in the head... Umbridge did send the dementors.
Could the Dementors find Harry if he had stayed at his aunts house for that matter?
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Post by Duddahs on May 31, 2011 11:20:39 GMT -6
I believe that to the Wizarding World, Dumbledore made Privet Drive Unplottable.
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Post by grandpalovegood on Jun 2, 2011 2:09:54 GMT -6
That is where my memory escapes me on the locations pinpointed down for certain characters. I know when I read DH... I imagine Bathillda Bagshot as living across the road from the Potters.. but doesn't she live on an adjoining street. Same for the playground Harry used to hang out at in the earlier books. I think it was down a couple of streets away. We really see this when Harry has to carry Dudley after the Dementor attack. Before that I always imagined it was on the same street. So it makes me wonder if Mrs. Figg really lived down Privet Drive or down an adjoining street but still close by?
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Post by Duddahs on Jun 3, 2011 11:41:26 GMT -6
I would love to ask J.K.R. what or who inspired her for the character of Dobby.
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Post by grandpalovegood on Feb 14, 2012 3:49:34 GMT -6
We have all read the Harry Potter books or have watched the Harry Potter movies, so I thought this might be a nice actual DISCUSSION thread. Here is what I hope this thread will be; After having read the books, there have always been questions that seem not to have been fully answered or explained. In the movies there have been scenes cut out or characters left out, leaving gaping holes in the stories plot lines. Let's discuss what some of these unanswered questions, theories or scenes actually are, what they could potentially be and how they may have ultimately changed what we have become accustomed to the completed materials so far in the world of Harry Potter. OK.... dusting off this thread... I've always wanted to know what the Centaurs did with Umbridge when they took off with her in the forest. From the way it sounded at the end of that book it must have been something pretty bad. Still, from reading DH it makes me think it must not have been after all since she didn't learn anything from her experience. Usually when someone is traumatized by something to that extent that she needed to be hospitalized, it's a life changing event. So... I wonder what JKR actually had happen to her... or was it just a way to chastize her for the moment to keep her quiet at the end of the book?  |
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Post by Duddahs on Feb 14, 2012 14:18:14 GMT -6
OOOOOHHHHHH, You have to watch the ever so fantastic A Very Potter Musical the Sequel.....
You will find out what really happened to Umbridge.... Oh we even have an image on this site of Firenze too!
It is just way too funny and I must have laughed so hard to burst an aneurism....
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Post by grandpalovegood on Feb 14, 2012 17:04:49 GMT -6
OK....maybe I should rephrase that to mean that. What was YOUR original thought during your first reading of what happened to Umbridge in the forest? Yep... you caught me, I still have yet to watch that musical.  |
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Post by Duddahs on Feb 14, 2012 17:20:38 GMT -6
I had assumed they beat her to a bloody pulp.....
Stomped her with their hooves....
Nothing left identifiable other than her displaced bow that had fallen off her head when the first hoof to the chops connected.
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Post by fangsfan1 on Nov 11, 2017 19:07:48 GMT -6
OK....maybe I should rephrase that to mean that. What was YOUR original thought during your first reading of what happened to Umbridge in the forest? Yep... you caught me, I still have yet to watch that musical. that I kind of agree with Duddahs, I really thought they might have killed her-I was surprised to later find out that she was in the hospital wing with the others. I guess DD said Snape saved her though, I wonder what would have happened if he hadn't? |
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Post by Duddahs on Nov 11, 2017 19:22:39 GMT -6
And she was sent to Azkaban after the final battle. It was revealed that she was a half blood herself!
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