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Post by Duddahs on Feb 27, 2011 15:53:50 GMT -6
What If, Harry had not followed Dumbledores instructions and stopped forcing him to drink the potion in the cave?
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Post by fangsfan1 on Mar 1, 2011 10:50:41 GMT -6
What If, Harry had not followed Dumbledores instructions and stopped forcing him to drink the potion in the cave?
That's a really good one Duddahs. I know every time I read that section I wonder if I would have had the courage to let DD continue on and I'm afraid I wouldn't have. I think in the back of my mind I'm thinking just what you wrote, what if Harry had stopped? I hadn't thought about it before but I guess it was another instance of Harry showing great courage to let DD continue on. A really hard choice to make though.
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Post by grandpalovegood on Mar 2, 2011 13:24:05 GMT -6
Again, I agree with Fangsfan for the most part. I too would not be able to continue on giving him more to drink. I think I might have held out for the most part, reminding myself over and over again of the promise I just gave Albus... but as things got worse with each cup... I'd have stopped... I believe close to the end... Definitely not until it was completely empty.
Still, my guess had always been that IF Harry would have stopped two things would happen... For certain the Inferi would have become involved at some point. That would not be good.
For Dumbledore himself... I imagined he would have been.... stuck. Sort of stuck in the limbo his mind had created. I could see him similar to Neville's parents, yet stuck in painful agonizing memories. I think it was not until the basin was empty that the spell the potion had over him was broken. OR it might have been that Dumbledore was such a powerful wizard that he had a type of strength that only helped to attempt to hold his thoughts together. We know he was already dying and needed help from Snape once they returned to the school. I think he had to reach deep from within himself to even come close to keeping a sane thought in his mind. Especially after enduring the experience he just went through.
But yes.. I did wonder about this the first time I read that book. I still wondered if this was what JKR meant for us to think when I reread the book the other times.
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Post by Duddahs on Mar 3, 2011 12:25:48 GMT -6
What If, Hagrid had somehow prevailed at winning Buckbeaks freedom? Would things have turned out differently for Sirius?
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Post by nz101nz on Mar 3, 2011 13:11:38 GMT -6
Ooo Good one Duddahs! I think the outcome still would have been the same. Dumbledore would have probably found a way to get him out.
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Post by fangsfan1 on Mar 4, 2011 13:27:00 GMT -6
What if, when Petunia wrote the headmaster requesting to come to Hogwarts, he had been able to find a way to get her in? Not as a student but maybe helping one of the teachers in the classroom-maybe learning about wizard history and helping Prof Binns make his classes a little more interesting-something like that? IF this could have happened, would it have made a difference in how Petunia treated Harry later?
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Post by Duddahs on Mar 4, 2011 14:23:27 GMT -6
What if, when Petunia wrote the headmaster requesting to come to Hogwarts, he had been able to find a way to get her in? Not as a student but maybe helping one of the teachers in the classroom-maybe learning about wizard history and helping Prof Binns make his classes a little more interesting-something like that? IF this could have happened, would it have made a difference in how Petunia treated Harry later? The problem I would see with this is the fact that Petunia was only a few years older than Lily. I do not believe she would have been capable of helping out to the point that it would over ride breaking the statute of non exposure of the Wizarding World to the Muggle World.. That is most likely what the main concern was. I am sure that Petunia's plea touched Dumbledore to his core but alas, the law is the law, having written many of them himself of course (wink, wink) |
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Post by grandpalovegood on Mar 4, 2011 15:20:12 GMT -6
You know I never once thought about that law but you have to be correct. When I first read Fangsfan's comment.... what came to my mind first was Filch. He didnt have magic yet being the ONLY member of his family who was not magical, Dumbledore allowed him to work up at the school. Then look at how he turned out? I still wonder if he's allowed to leave the school grounds. We have never seen or heard of him even going to Hogsmeade.. He lives up at the school year round. I wonder if Dumbledore had to put some sort of spell to make it possible for him to be at Hogwarts. I wondered if this also might have been part of what causes his deep resentment of the students. If Fangsfan's senario were to be allowed... I see he and Petunia being quite the pair. Still, I really do think for Dumbledore turning her down, it was in her best interest. It would be a reminder to her that she does not fit in. Still... who knows... she might have met a nice wizard boy and fell in love... and actually HAD wizard kids. She might have been happy to have been excepted to work up at the school then.  Thank you Fangsfan, for helping my mind to wander in a direction I never thought about before.  |
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Post by Duddahs on Mar 5, 2011 16:27:39 GMT -6
What If, when Dobby came and performed Magic at the Dursley's that the Trace on Harry could actually have shown that he did not perform the magic himself... Or maybe it did show this but the Ministry was already setting Harry up as a scapegoat for going after Dumbledore.
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Post by grandpalovegood on Mar 7, 2011 9:53:09 GMT -6
What if the entire cast of the Harry Potter movies were to other actors and actresses?..... not the ones we know and love today?
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Post by fangsfan1 on Mar 8, 2011 11:06:13 GMT -6
It would be interesting to see if someone else could do a better job. There are some I wouldn't mind seeing someone else try-but some for me, such Maggie Smith and Robbie Coltrane for instance, it's very hard for me to imagine someone else in that role!
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Post by Duddahs on Mar 8, 2011 12:49:35 GMT -6
It would be interesting to see if someone else could do a better job. There are some I wouldn't mind seeing someone else try-but some for me, such Maggie Smith and Robbie Coltrane for instance, it's very hard for me to imagine someone else in that role! I am right there with you.. I can honestly not see anyone else in the roles of Snape, Hagrid or McGonnagall |
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Post by fangsfan1 on Apr 5, 2011 11:14:04 GMT -6
What if Sirius had been able to communicate with Harry through the mirror after his death? Would his advice have made Harry do things any differently?
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Post by Duddahs on Apr 5, 2011 13:48:29 GMT -6
What if Sirius had been able to communicate with Harry through the mirror after his death? Would his advice have made Harry do things any differently? Unfortunately Sirius was never one of my true favorite characters. He was far too irresponsible and I feel that he actually caused just as much trouble for Harry than he did solve problems. Sirius was truly one of those Lone Wolf kind of guys. Huge heart but far too free spirited to bridle. |
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Post by nz101nz on Apr 6, 2011 14:45:58 GMT -6
What if Harry could see through Snape and learn that he was a good guy. Would his attitude change towards him?
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Post by Duddahs on Apr 7, 2011 11:16:14 GMT -6
What if Sanpe had fallen in love with someone else, such as Madame Hooch?
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Post by fangsfan1 on Apr 8, 2011 18:12:17 GMT -6
What if Slughorn had mentioned to the headmaster that Tom RIddle whas questioning him about horcruxes?
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Post by grandpalovegood on Apr 12, 2011 1:48:59 GMT -6
What if Sirius had been able to communicate with Harry through the mirror after his death? Would his advice have made Harry do things any differently? I always wondered what I would ask someone on the other side? So with that in mind, I wonder what Harry would have asked of Sirius if he had the opportunity to talk to him from the other side of the veil. As for Sirius giving advice... I remember he tried to while he was alive but didn't Harry go his own way? Did he actually listen to anything he said? I guess I need to think on what they talked about during the time he did get to spend with him. |
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Post by grandpalovegood on Apr 12, 2011 1:53:17 GMT -6
What if Harry could see through Snape and learn that he was a good guy. Would his attitude change towards him? Wait.... how many times did everyone keep telling him that Snape was a good guy and he was too stubborn to except it? I think Harry always knew, he just didn't want to listen. Still, I know the question you are asking. These are good questions. The only thing offhand that I can think of... IF Harry did change his attitude towards Snape, the Slytherins would notice and wonder why. This would get back to Voldemort and mess things up undercover wise for Snape. I could imagine Snape stepping it up a few notches just to keep his cover strong. Then poor Harry. I think Harry would be back to hating him once again because of the treatment. |
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Post by grandpalovegood on Apr 12, 2011 1:55:07 GMT -6
What if Sanpe had fallen in love with someone else, such as Madame Hooch?  Just imagine their kids. ;D |
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Just imagine their kids. ;D